Thursday, February 2, 2006

27 years after the revolution

As we approach the 27th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution, I found it appropriate to mention some of the major achievements of the Islamic regime of Iran in the past 3 decades.

1. Execution, flogging, stoning... in the public
2. Mass killings of political prisoners
3. Assassination of political dissidents in and outside of Iran
4. Causing depression among the youths
5. Creating oppression inside the country
6. Sponsoring Int'l terrorism
7. Violation of human rights, big time.
8. Killing and imprisonment of journalists
9. Closure of vocal media outlets such as newspapers
10. Suppression of religious minorities
11. Destruction of Iran’s Economy and creating poverty
12. Increase in unemployment and crime
13. Promotion of corruption, prostitution and addiction
14. 1979 Occupation of the US Embassy in Tehran
15. Destruction of Iran’s agriculture sector
16. Promoting Islamic Fundamentalism
17. Creating conflicts with neighboring countries
18. Severe Inflation
19. Devaluation of Iranian currency 'Rial'
20. Making Iran an international “embarrassment”
21. Forcing Iranians to leave the country
22. Destruction of Iran's historical monuments

Of course this list is incomplete and the crimes of the clerical regime is unlimited!

I'd like to add more to this list and you may also leave me a comment on this and let me know if I am missing any thing and I'll add that later.


Sahar said...

I think you should add brain drain (farare maghzhaa).

Winston said...

#21 doesn't count?

کـیانوش said...

درود وینـسـتون گـرامی و سـپاس از احـوالپـرسیتـون، یـکـم بـهـتر هـستـم ولـی خـوب نـشدم هـنوز! و بـبخـشید که مـن فـقط آلـمانی بـلدم و نـمیتـونـم درباره پـست هـاتـون نـظر بـدم. شـاد بـاشید

Anonymous said...

You should also add ripping off and plundering the Iranian national wealth and resources and depositing them in their private bank accounts. According to Abbas Miliani, this government has 60 million dollar a day to play with. However, they are so incompetent in managing the economy that they have to "import" gasoline and natural gas(benzine and jet fuel) from other countries in the amount of 10 billion dollars a years. This is really painful because having so much crude oil, Iran should have the infrastructure in place to be able to produce it's own gasoline and gas. And these incompetent morons have the audacity to ciriticize the Shah. Another thing you might want ot consider adding is the staggering unemployment, abject porverty and hopelessness which leads to prostitution, and drug addiction.

کـیانوش said...

عــجـــب!!! فـامیل از آب دراومـدیم ؟؟ بـعله هـمچین شـخصی رو میشـناســـم

کـیانوش said...

چـشــم، ولــی از طـرف کــــی ؟؟؟

Anonymous said...

This article is a MUST READ. It says Iran is running out of oil in 20 years and many other informative data.

Why the West will attack Iran
By Spengler

کـیانوش said...

تـبادل لیـنک بـا کـمال مـیل، اگــر انگلیسـیم نــم نکـشیده بـود زودتـر ایـنکار رو میـگردم :)ـ راسـتی
اگـر بـگم یـکی از کانادا سـلام رسـوند کافـیه؟

روزبه said...

Let's be fair
7. Violation of human rights, big time.
Happend also in the previous regim.
11. Destruction of Iran’s Economy and creating poverty
12. Increase in unemployment and crime
13. Promotion of corruption, prostitution and addiction
15. Destruction of Iran’s agriculture sector
18. Severe Inflation
These are due to structral problems in our economy that we inherited from previous regims. It is true that current regim didn't(or couldn't) do much to improve it. But they are not the only ones to blame.

19. Devaluation of Iranian currency 'Rial'
I am not sure what that really means. And I don't think this regim particularly had much to do with it. If anything they artificially kept the value of 'Rial' so high for such an extended period of time.

Be fair

تـــــرنـــٌــــم said...

anjaam shod

have a nice night :)

Winston said...

Roozbeh, I am not a professional economist like you are but to my ordinary point of view, devaluation of our currency can be seen in a simple way:

1 USD= 70 Rls in 1978
1 USD= 9300 Rls in 2006

It is devaluation to me, big time!

The other points wouldn't be a big problem under a responsible government like the Shah and it could be solved in a faster pace but yes, inflation exists in all modern and developed countries as well and it is not only something happening in Iran but under the Mullahs it got worse.

But let me remind you that here I am talking about the Islamic regime not the previous ones.

So your point is not valid here.


sepehr said...

hello dear as you said this list is not complete but i hope it'd never been completed in the future
islamic republic is a disaster not only for iran and iranian but olso for world an humanity

Anonymous said...

How long are the apologist of this regime going to blame the Shah for their own incompetences and utter mismanagment of the economy? Who is responsible to fix the structural problem of the economy? The Shah from his grave I suppose....The structural problem of the Iranian economy as it stands today has nothing to do with the Shah. The Iranian economy has to stay stagnant and opaque because of the regime's corrupted ideology and the very existance of the theocracy is jeopardized if the economy becomes open and free. ...The Per Capita income of Iranians is only $7,700 per year. What is the Per capita income of the US $41,000 per year. The Kawitis have even a higher per capita income than the US. It's so pathetic to blame everything on the past instead of trying to identify the existing problems in the present.

Richards said...

roozbeh... if I understand correctly you are a Phd in Economy.

God saves us if people like you want to lead Iran tomorrow.

Stop apologising for the Islamic regime

Anonymous said...


I couldn't agree with you more. He should return his degree to whatever college he attended and get his money back. lol

روزبه said...

you said:"...The other points wouldn't be a big problem under a responsible government like the Shah and it could be solved in a faster pace but yes..."

responsible government?!?!? Shah?!?
you have got to be kidding me!!!
Let me remind you that you are talking about a dictatorship here!

BTW, who said that 70rial for dolar was a currect valuation for our currency?

In english language is called "economics"(no economy!!!).
And don't worry. I have no intention of leading anyone.
And I am not appologetic or supporting any regim or ideaology.
I am just a guy who tries to see the facts the way they are, not the way he'd like to believe.

Oue political regims (Either Shah or Islamic Republic) are not the source of our problems, they are product of the bigger, deeper problems in our society. Not withstanding an alternative view is one of them. Look back to the responses and "lables" that I got form my comments. You see what I am talking about.


Anonymous said...

Mr. Roozbeh would you like to elaborate on your "alternative perspective". As far as I can see, no alternative point of view was presented in your post except justification and rationalization which perhaps unintentially gave the impression to the reader that you were trying to minimize or trivilize the curren state of affairs. Perhaps if you did communicate an alternative point of view applicable to the present situation, you would have found many receptive ears to listen and to learn.

روزبه said...

You said:"He should return his degree to whatever college he attended and get his money back"
Thank you for your advice! It is the unioversity of Minnesota. If you think I do not deserve to get a degree(only based on making a fair comment) fill free to mention that
you said:".The structural problem of the Iranian economy as it stands today has nothing to do with the Shah."
It does. There has been little change in economic instituition and governing rule and the market structure in our economy. It is the same shit that was during the Shah.

You also said:"It's so pathetic to blame everything on the past instead of trying to identify the existing problems in the present."
It is as pathetic to blam everything on the present and do not see the roots of the problem.

Anonymous#3(pick a name dudes!)
I think my comment were clear enough. Winston made a list of faileaur of the current regim. All I said was those points that I signled out are not just the faileaure of this regim, they were faileaure of "every regim" who has been ruling Iran over the last 70 years.
Does that mean I defend current regims resume? No! Does that mean I think the previous regim is "AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS"? Damn right I do!

Anonymous said...

It is as pathetic to blame everything on the present and do not see the roots of the problem

This regime has had 27 years to analyze, assess, and identify the root causes of many things economics or social but they have failed miserably. If you were a CEO of a small corporation and run your company the way the mullahs do, the board of directors would have fired your butt many moons ago.

And yes, you're right my remark about your degree was uncalled for and I do apologize. I was just trying to be funny. I had not seen your website before I posted that ad hominem. Judging by your posts on your website, you seem to be a worthy PhD Candidate and you will be an asset to any entity business or otherwise in the future.

BTW, I did my thesis on supply-side economics years ago. What is your area of research, if you don't mind me asking.

Lastly, I'm not a dude, I'm a dudette. Lol

روزبه said...

Dear Ms. Anonymous
I repeat. By no means I defend any regim's performance on economic matters (or anything else). But I truely believe that seeing the problems "only" in the current regim is short-sighted, naive and misleading.
off topic and just to answer your question:
I do research on optimal government policies (esp. social insurance) and real business cycle theory.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. However, we were reviewing or appraising if you will the performance of the current regime and not the cause and effect relationship of their catastrophic failure. For a thorough analysis of that caliber, we have to go back at least a 100 yeras.

Dear Mr. Roozbeh: It's clear to me now that you're not a supporter of the regime. How could you be? you're too cerebral. lol

Stay warm.

Sahar said...

Well, Winston, I give it to you, # 21 covers my point....

As for Rouzbeh's comments, I agree with him again! I think Shah's regime was also very bad for Iran. He was a dictator, and not even a competent one.... I had my father in Khomeini's prison and my grandfather in Shah's prison. Both for what they believed. So please do not preach for Shah's time. It is too bad. He was like any other dictator. Believe me, you couldn't live under his regime either. He would put people in prison, torture them and kill them. If you don't believe me as people who are older, they surely remember.

As for the economic situation, that seemed that was going well, but it was all the oil money. I know it is worse now that mollah' s are consuming all the money, but that time we didn't have a solid economy either... So I don't think we would have been in a better situation if Shah would have survived his tyranny.

Anonymous said...

God... pleas give him just a little think that dosnt has any relationship to BBC or CNN.

Winston said...

Sahar, The Shah of Iran wasn't a dictator because if he was, he would be in power today too!

And May I know what group your father or grandfather belonged to?

Roozbeh, The late Shah of Iran is a respected man among many Iranians and he tried to modernize the country and built a great country in less than 37 years and he deserves our appreciation.

I do not believe in whatever Media have said (and most of you believed) about his majesty's reign.

روزبه said...

A kingdon BY DEFINITION is a dictatorship!(Did people vote for him)
Shah was an idiot, supersticious, tyrant and because of his idiot ideology he was thrown away.

I do not respect him AT ALL and hold him reponsible for, TOO, for the problem our society is facing today.

If by many Iranian you mean those who ran away 27 years ago and fleed to west, I don't know. But I lived in Iran until 2000 and I do not know many people who have a tiny bit of repect for an idiot dictator.

Wake up and smell the coffee

Anonymous said...

Nobody is denying that the Shah was a dictator. However, even in a democracy if one tries to overthrow a government, you will face server punishment, especially in the Cold War era. To evaluate Shah's performance as a leader one should compare the country before the Shah and after the Shah. Could he have done a lot more? Yes. Was he the brightest of the leaders? No.
If the Shah had done even a tiny fraction of the killings, torturing, and systematic brutalizing his dissidents and citizens, he would have still been in power.
Who has plunderd the National wealth and resources of Iranians? According to Forbes magazine, Ayatollah Rafsanjani is the 8th richest man in the world. Where did he get all this money? I invite you to read the article by the Forbes magazine below:

The brutality and the savagery exhibited by the mullahs pales in comparison to what Shah did in his time.

Anonymous said...

Some of my favorite quotes:

“True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower

An elder Cherokee Native American was teaching his grandchildren about life. He said to them, "A fight is going on inside me...It is a terrible fight, and it is between two wolves. One wolf represents fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, pride and superiority. The other wolf stands for joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside of you and every other person too." They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied..."The one I feed."

Anonymous said...

Iranians are Iranians whether they are monarchists, Mullah lovers, reformers, even if they are Basiji. You can't deny someone their identity just because you disagree with them or they are different because of their collective experiences. We need to see each other as humans with diverse backgrounds and experiences in life. We can't all be the same.

Anonymous said...

Ok pop quiz time. Who said this about George W. Bush in December 2001?

'This is not a monarchy...We've got a dictatorial president and a Justice Department that does not want Congress involved. ... Your guy's acting like he's king.''

I'll give you a hint: it wasn't a liberal, a Democrat, a peace activist, an anti-war protester or Fidel Castro.

Give up? It was actually Republican Congressman Dan Burton. And he wasn't alone. Republican Congressman LaTourette called Bush's actions a bunch of crap. Democratic Representative Henry Waxman said:

"An imperial presidency or an imperial justice department conflicts with the democratic principles of our nation"

Winston said...

Roozbeh, You sound like a Mullah. Sorry but you deserve this label

May be no one in your mullahcracy circles do not respect the late Shah of Iran but milions of Iran are in love with their late Shah.

Get a life dude and spend the mullahs money somewhere else

روزبه said...

I am sorry that you can not see any color other than black an white.

I am sorry that if I think your Shah was an incompetent tyrant dictator, it sounds like Mullah to you.

I am sorry to have destroyed your dreams.

And once again, WAKE UP! Iranians do not like Pahlavi. I have lived in that country for 22 years under Islamic Republic. The circle of my social interactions is far beyond what you labled "mullahcracy circles". Believe me, people do not give a shit for Pahlavi.

So YOU Get a life and have fun spending Pahlavi's money.

روزبه said...

Let me just add one more thing and it would be the last comment that I ever leave on this weblog.

We ( you and I) have a very important similarity. We both want to have a free and democratic and prosprous country. And I respect that about you.

My problem is with the ILLUSION of thinking what we had before 1979 was a free and democratic country. That is just flat out WRONG! Another problem is the ILLUSION of thinking people of Iran like(ed) Pahlavi or his son or whatever. This is also falt out wrong.

How many years have you been away from Iran? How many times have you spoken to 'real Iranian' people in person to see what they love and what they don't?

I repeat. I respect you quest. But I am afraid you are on a wrong track and worst than that awfully misinformed about the realities of Iranian society today.

I am not gonna leave comment here ever again. But I wish yo luck and I wish you wisdom and vision to see THE REALITY.

Good Luck

Winston said...
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Winston said...


well, for some one waving the flag of the Islamic republic on his webpage, it is easy to bash the late Shah of Iran.

Btw, FYI I left Iran 1 yr ago.

So dont tell me what is wrong or right.

iranian people have respect for the late Shah of Iran until you and your mullah cronies want to say otherwise.

Over and Out!

Richards said...

I wonder if this Roozbeh is a member of NIAC or is in the States with the money given to him by the akhoonds to study in the USA

Anonymous said...

Dear Winston:

With all due respect, calling Roozbeh a "Mullah" was not very prudent. We need to learn how to agree to disagree. Even if he was a "mullah", which he definitely is not, we should not dismiss his opinion and alienate him from our discourse. I heartly resent "labeling" or "branding" people as this or that. It really doesn't do much for creating unity and consensus. It stifles discussions and it's ultimately, self-defeating.

I for one am sorry that he no longer is going to post on this site.

Winston said...

I can tell who sounds like a Mullah or not when I see one.

Khashayar said...

aghaye roozbeh shoma migi hich ki ala hazrat pahlavi ro nemikhad?


in harfe shoma mano yade televisione mollaha andakht ye lahze.

Anonymous said...

Dear Winston: I know what you're saying. The flag on the website speaks volumes. However, in the spirit of unity and consensus building, we need not to alienate any Iranian who wants a democratic and secular future for Iran. Indoctrination and propaganda-fed beliefs can be easily dismantled through debates and discussion.

I hope you see the wisdom in what I'm trying to convey here albeit ineffectively perhpas.

Winston said...

I hear you

Anonymous said...

Maybe Ms Anonymous should start her own blog and invite the anti-Shah fellow there?

Mr. Anon.

Anonymous said...


I don't see anything wrong with being anti-shah or being pro-shah. We need to expand our horiozons and listen to each other grievances to resolve our issues.

On a different topic: That flag with the Arabic word "Allah" is nothing short of cultural genocide of Iranina identy. I don't think any Arab country would have ever allowed a Persian word written on their flag. It's truly embarrasing how the mullahs have sold us out to Arabs.